Object Subject Form
A series of conversations exploring the human side of creativity at the evolving intersection of art, technology and finance. As exponential technologies continue to impact how we create, share, and interact, host Simon Clowes discusses with his guests what it takes to consistently perform, grow and adapt amidst the challenges and intricacies of living and operating as a creative. — Simon is a creative director with over two decades of experience in film, animation, and visual effects. He is currently serving as Managing Creative Director at Apple. — Connect with Simon: https://zaap.bio/simonclowes
Episodes

Sunday Dec 08, 2024
Sunday Dec 08, 2024
In 2005, Kyle and Kimber Cooper invited me to relocate from London to Los Angeles for my dream job at their company, Prologue.
At the time, Prologue was in its infancy—a small but exceptionally talented team landing opportunities alongside some of the most established companies in the industry. This marked the beginning of a journey that would shape the next decade of my life.
My time there was nothing short of an intense apprenticeship, where I was encouraged to tirelessly fight for ideas, and never find myself idle.
This final episode of Season 1 of Object Subject Form explores the magic that happens when art, love, and business collide.
Kimber Cooper is an entrepreneur with over 20 years of experience in design, film, and VFX, with recent ventures into e-commerce and XR. She has founded three companies: Prologue (where I spent the first decade of my design career), Prologue Immersive, and Spatialand (now called Insperience) acquired by Walmart in 2018 when she partnered with Marc Lore and Lori Flees to create the first retail virtual experience.
Launching a business is daunting, but starting the journey with your life partner brings some unique challenges to the surface. It’s not just about navigating a business but also managing a marriage and family.
Kim reflects on what it means to have a creative life partner and how to work closely with someone you love while navigating life’s inevitable challenges—balancing family, finances, employee retention, and maintaining a steady flow of work.
This conversation celebrates the intersection of creativity, innovation, and partnership—offering insights for anyone navigating the balance of art, love, and business.
If you’re considering starting a creative business with your significant other, this episode is for you.
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Connect with Kim on LinkedIn:
https://www.linkedin.com/in/kimber-cooper-463a0b3a/
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Prologues' Website:
https://prologue.com/
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Connect with me:
https://zaap.bio/simonclowes

Wednesday Jan 29, 2025
Wednesday Jan 29, 2025
How do we ensure AI enhances creativity rather than diminishes it? Can designers integrate AI into their workflows without losing the essence of human-driven craft?
As AI continues to reshape creative industries, designers face a critical choice—resist, or adapt and find a way to collaborate. This episode of Object Subject Form explores the evolving relationship between human creativity and machine intelligence, highlighting the role of hybrid workflows in shaping the future of design.
Simon Dixon, co-founder of DixonBaxi, has spent over two decades at the intersection of creativity, design, and technology. His studio is known for its bold philosophy—“Be Brave”—a mindset that extends to adapting to emerging technologies.
Driven by the enduring power of creativity, DixonBaxi collaborates with some of the world’s most iconic brands across sports, entertainment, media, the new economy, and technology to design a better future.
Their clients—Netflix, Google, Samsung, Warner Bros Discovery, AC Milan, Hulu, and more—trust them to help prepare for what’s next.
In this conversation, Simon explores the Human–AI Creative Partnership—how AI can be a tool for expansion rather than replacement, the challenges of maintaining originality in an era of automation, and why adaptability is the most important skill for designers today.
This episode sets the tone for Object Subject Form's second season, focusing on the technologies and ideas that will shape creative practice over the next 5 to 10 years.
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Connect with Simon on LinkedIn
https://www.linkedin.com/in/simonsdixon/
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DixonBaxi Website:
https://www.dixonbaxi.com/
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Connect with me:
https://zaap.bio/simonclowes

Tuesday Mar 04, 2025
Tuesday Mar 04, 2025
How can digital art cement its place in contemporary culture? Can NFTs and blockchain technology continue to bridge the gap between artists and major institutions?
As dialogue around digital art continues to evolve, questions of legitimacy, value, and long-term impact remain central to the conversation. In this episode of Object Subject Form, we examine how digital art is gaining recognition in major institutions and how emerging technologies are reshaping the art world.
Currently the GM of CryptoPunks, Natalie Stone leads the iconic collection that ignited a contemporary digital art movement, with pieces in the permanent collections of institutions such as the Centre Pompidou, LACMA, and ICA Miami. She played a key role in CryptoPunks: Free to Claim, a Phaidon-published project with Zak Group that chronicles the rise of CryptoPunks and their cultural significance.
Formerly at Google, she led Google I/O, crafted VR/AR experiences with artists like Childish Gambino and LCD Soundsystem, and developed an experimental new media program for artists working in AI.
With a deep understanding of both traditional and digital art ecosystems, Natalie offers a unique perspective on the evolving dynamics of curation, collection, and creative innovation.
In this conversation, we discuss the challenges and opportunities facing digital artists today, the role of traditional art institutions in Web3, and how blockchain technology is redefining provenance, ownership, and artistic value.
Launched by Larva Labs in 2017, CryptoPunks consists of 10,000 unique pixel-art characters that became a symbol of digital ownership and the CryptoArt movement. Stored on the Ethereum blockchain, CryptoPunks are more than just collectibles—they’ve played a pivotal role in shaping conversations around provenance, value, and the integration of blockchain technology in the art world.
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Connect with Natalie on X:
https://x.com/naughtaliestone
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Natalie’s website:
https://nataliestone.co/
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Connect with Natalie on LinkedIn:
https://www.linkedin.com/in/stonenatalie/
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CryptoPunks:
https://cryptopunks.app/
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Learn more about CryptoPunks on the Brand Hub:
https://hub.cryptopunks.app/
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Follow CryptoPunks on X:
https://x.com/cryptopunksnfts
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CryptoPunks Book @ Phaidon:
https://www.phaidon.com/store/fashion-and-pop-culture/cryptopunks-free-to-claim-9781838669300/
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Connect with simon:
https://zaap.bio/simonclowes
